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Residents Of 200 Hicks Street Concerned Bossert Hotel Conversion Will Create Noise, Safety Issues By Chuck Taylor on August 10, 2012 10:16 am in Brooklyn Heights , Commercial discount alaskan cruises Real Estate , Development discount alaskan cruises , Environment , open letter , Tourism , Traffic , Watchtower
A group of concerned residents who reside at 200 Hicks Street are taking to task the new owners of the Bossert Hotel at 98 Montague Street. Brooklyn Heights rez Elizabeth Bailey and her comrades believe the conversion plan currently before the Bureau of Standard and Appeals could create serious noise, traffic and safety issues in the area.
She writes to the Brooklyn Heights Blog: Although residents of Brooklyn are happy, mostly, about our borough's resurgence, or rather, emergence, those of us who live here because it is a quiet, safe place to live and bring up children, are worried that these developers are showing little regard to neighborhood concerns.
New owners David Bistricer and Joseph Chetrit are seeking a variance to convert the hotel to a commercial transient facility, from its status as visitor housing for previous owner Jehovah s Witnesses. The BSA has scheduled a hearing on the application September 11.
The group of residents at 200 Hicks, located at the northwest corner of Montague, say that the plan could deter the Heights peaceful persona if it is done without regard to the nature and character of our residential community. Bailey points to a New York Times feature discount alaskan cruises on the Bossert from November discount alaskan cruises 2011, in which Brooklyn Heights Association executive director Judy Stanton notes concerns about upkeep, since Watchtower society placed a premium on maintenance, including the surrounding sidewalks and parks. Stanton also intimates that the neighborhood may become livelier if the Bossert is converted into a high-end discount alaskan cruises hotel.
Bailey writes, discount alaskan cruises The developers discount alaskan cruises are proposing to increase the number of rooms from 224 to 302. Although they speak of creating a boutique hotel, over 300 rooms is a pretty big boutique. They also have plans to build a ground floor restaurant, discount alaskan cruises event spaces (weddings and bar mitzvahs, etc.) and a bar on the rooftop. The developers contend that the increase in traffic on the busy corner of Montague and Hicks from their proposed hotel will be negligible. She finds this hard to believe.
We understand from press reports that both Chetrit and Bistricer have been publicly criticized for various aspects of their past real estate ventures. Among other controversial matters, Chetrit is one of the investors in the Empire Hotel near Lincoln Center, which has been the subject of a three-year battle that a West 62nd Street coop had to wage in the courts over torment from the noise from its rooftop bar well after midnight, Bailey says. The developers discount alaskan cruises are also involved with the Chelsea Hotel, which has been the subject of recent discount alaskan cruises controversy. Noise and traffic: That's what Brooklyn Heights residents are worried about.
The 200 Hicks Street group proposes that restrictions discount alaskan cruises be put in place on the proposed hotel/bar: The aim is to limit the increase in noise and traffic that would compromise the safety and the character of this neighborhood. Bailey invites public discourse of the issue, and is available via email at Elizaabailey@mac.com .
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Ha! Well of course they are against it But, SORRY, shouldnt of bought a co-op on the corner of a commercial zone if you dont wont a hotel near by. I think most of The Heights are THRILLED with the new hotel and the fact that a rooftop bar will be available for use!
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In any such situation, the rights of the owner need to be balanced discount alaskan cruises against the rights of the residential community. discount alaskan cruises Now is the time to reach compromise agreements with the owners about issues that will impact nearby residents, such as how late parties may be held, etc.
I agree with HenryLoL. Bring on the rooftop bar, as the views will be amazing! I previously lived in DUMBO for five years and there was concern that the expansion of the Brooklyn Bridge Park would bring too many tourists and bus tours into the nabe along with too much traffic. It did just that, but the benefits for the locals far outweigh the negatives. I think the rooftop bar will be a great hangout for those living in the Heights to enjoy.
The Bossert Hotel was there long before any of the residents of 200 Hicks Street. If you didn t want to live next to a hotel you should have found some other place to live. I don t know why you should be able to impose restrictions on a 100 year old Hotel from operating as a hotel. What are the alternatives? Maybe the residents of 200 Hicks Street should buy it themselves and make it a nice quiet museum.
@Rick I may be wrong but at the Empire Hotel their rooftop bar is surrounded by other buildings that are at the same level and higher than the lounge where one can imagine the noise might be an issue. But who exactly is going to be disturbed by a lounge on the 16th floor of the Bossert when there are no other buildings of the same height anywhere near it?
But I haven t heard Judy Stanton or anyone else say there shouldn t be a rooftop bar or restaurant, just that concerns about excess noise should be addressed, as well as any hotel-associated traffic issues.
If the Bossert has large private parties like the Empire does that continue until 2 or 3 AM, that could be pretty hard on the neighboring residents. discount alaskan cruises I d think the best time to reach agreeable compromises about such things is early on?
I guess none of us are sure what private will mean. But when I read a little about the situation discount alaskan cruises at the Empire Hotel, I saw that they run the bar on the roof like a club, with someone deciding who can get in and who cannot. I gather they are trying to create an air of exclusivity.
Montague used to get noisy with Annie s Blue Moon and Montague discount alaskan cruises Saloon and it was fine. It s a commercial street. I imagine that construction will be going on during daytime hours so they will just have to learn to deal with it.
i ve never understood the mindset discount alaskan cruises in this neighborhood that peace quiet are to be protected with an iron fist. isn t brooklyn heights part of new york city? there s no gate to keep out the unwanted, as far as i can see.
an OPEN-TO-THE-PUBLIC rooftop space on the top of the bossert sounds like an elegant new go-to destination for the entire community to enjoy i can t even understand why it would be made private i agree with other posters who are excited about the potential for the bossert to again bring glamour and new life to montague. bring it on!
Brooklyn Heights rez Elizabeth Bailey and her comrades believe the conversion plan currently before the Bureau of Standard and Appeals could create serious discount alaskan cruises noise, traffic and safety issues in the area.
Montague is a commercial street. The Bossert was built as a hotel over a 100 years ago. The residents of 200 Hicks Street moved there knowing those facts and now they want to impose restrictions on the Bossert to operate as a hotel which will be a tremendous benefit to the rest of the community?
Those that think it would be a great idea that the Bossert be converted to boutique hotel, with a new restauraunt in their beautiful discount alaskan cruises lobby and a rooftop lounge with stunning views of Manhattan that we can all enjoy, make your voices heard.
As usual it is the naysayers and complainers that get the attention discount alaskan cruises and which just could make the potential owners to say, the hell with it and walk away. We would then have an abandoned building that no one wants to touch because of the financial restrictions discount alaskan cruises imposed by the squeaky wheels .
Montague Street discount alaskan cruises and the Heights could really use an elegant bar and for that reason, it will be a shame if the Bossert rooftop discount alaskan cruises bar is private. On the other hand, I understand why it might have to be private for security reasons letting anyone off the street onto the elevators at a hotel might be an issue for them.
Maybe I m insensitive to the traffic argument because I don t drive. More people in the street makes for more safety, not less. We don t have enough bars in the neighborhood. Happy to have music from the rooftop.
As was mentioned before, the Empire Hotel at Lincoln Center is surrounded by substantially taller highrises. Hotel operators in Manhattan and Brooklyn have installed roof-top lounges (and swimming pools) featuring eardrum-splitting music, which attract thousands of stylish, with-it twenty somethings. As is well-known, sound rises and particularly in the Empire s case, can t disperse; that s why Lincoln discount alaskan cruises Center area residents facing the Empire have a noise problem. In contrast, the Bossert is substantially lower than the building at 200 Hicks Street. The new Bossert owners will determine whether the outdoor rooftop is to function as a lounge with or without music, or as a white-tablecloth restaurant. It s the State Liquor Authority, not the Board of Standards and Appeals, that approves the type of liquor licence and what can be served where.
But commercial aircraft are prohibited from breaking the sound barrier, not because they can t, but because the noise from sonic booms bothers people on the ground. There are also restrictions on military aircraft for the same reason.
Also, I m continually surprised that some posters here attack people for making complaints which are not even being made complain