Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Bolwerk, if you ever visit, you will find that downtown New York City is a compact and walkable plac




I am curious if any studies exist on cycling rental car promotion discount codes on the Brooklyn bridge.  I wonder how many additional trips would be made over the bridge if it were of the same quality as the Manhattan rental car promotion discount codes or Williamsburg bridge crossings.  I also think there are a lot of cyclists who now go over the Manhattan bridge who would flip to the Brooklyn if it weren t as congested
Re Cap n Transit piece: I think people are getting a little distracted by the cost of subsidizing the bridge. Even if we pay for the bridge outright with tolls, we re still going to be subsidizing the traffic to the bridge and the traffic from the bridge. This really knots the knickers of the anti-transit faithful to admit, but it isn t avoidable no matter what mode you re talking about and it only gets worse with cars. And a New York Post columnist is worried that buses are expensive to subsidize? How the hell else does one maximize use of pavement? (Guess you could build LRT tracks into the pavement, but I digress .)
All you need to measure this is to compare the market share of the two bridges rental car promotion discount codes in summer, when the Brooklyn Bridge is packed with tourists, and winter, when it is not, or AM when there is room and PM when there is not.
I think in the end this effort will result in cyclists banned from the Brooklyn Bridge and directed to the Manhattan, at least during peak times, as the ideas proposed by the Council members is shown to be economically/physically impossible and taking rental car promotion discount codes a traffic lane is politically impossible.
Has anyone suggested rental car promotion discount codes putting cyclists in a dedicated traffic lane? I, personally, wouldn t enjoy riding rental car promotion discount codes next to traffic rental car promotion discount codes and with impeded views, rental car promotion discount codes but it seems like it would be the most cost effective way to increase pedestrian space and speed cycling across the bridge. At least it would be one less lane for cars.
@742ec67ca99409c49641a2a7b1a1d8f1:disqus I think two important things to consider are that (1) cities never change and (2) nobody ever succeeded by taking risks or trying anything difficult. You may have heard that the Brooklyn Bridge was configured very differently 100 years ago, but we can be certain that 100 years from now, it will have exactly the same configuration as today.
@36056f95783f8cfb512e9d49d4187ce6:disqus : meh, I dunno.  I always wonder what s the chicken and what s the egg. OK, 100 years ago you could take the Myrtle El to downtown. Now you can take it as far as Bushwick. Seems you could board the Dekalb Avenue Streetcar (now the B38 bus) on Seneca Avenue in Ridgewood and take that across the Brooklyn Bridge too, at least for a while.
@bolwerk:twitter  - people stopped going downtown because the city ripped down expensive infrastructure instead of repairing/replacing it, opting instead to focus on clearing space for better vehicular traffic flows throughout the borough without providing useful, reliable mass transit options. The result is that a select rental car promotion discount codes minority of people gets to sit in traffic all day while the working middle class without cars lost mobility. This was mobility they had for a century; those elevated lines were in service decades before the advent of middle class car ownership in America.Automobile-centric urban planning is deeply rental car promotion discount codes regressive, as usual, and needs to be reversed. Of course, that s not even really possible, since the city and state has been chopping up and selling off their various mass transit right-of-way properties for decades, so now it ll be 10x expensive to squeeze reliable mass transit infrastructure back into the mix. You can t even rely on SBS to fix the issue, because you would have riots if you tried to squeeze two extra dedicated bus lanes onto Myrtle Avenue. Oh, and how are they going to get around Metrotech? Probably they ll sit in stopped rental car promotion discount codes traffic on other Downtown Brooklyn streets like Livingston and Flatbush Extension, that s how!
Pointless to complain about the trolleys being taken away from the Brooklyn Bridge without mentioning that since the halcyon year of 1907, a total of seven two-way pairs of subway tracks have been put into service between downtown Brooklyn and Manhattan, which provide through service rental car promotion discount codes from points all over Brooklyn to destinations throughout the Bronx, Queens, and Manhattan, something trolleys never did.
As far as converting one of the vehicle lanes to cyclist use, my vote is for the outside inbound lane. Close BQE exit 28B, which leads onto the bridge, and let cyclists enter at Sands St, then leave the bridge in Manhattan via the now closed Park Row exit.
Regarding the rest of the Brooklyn Bridge coverage, I think this idea is creative and forward thinking. rental car promotion discount codes And as several commenters have offered, if a real study is done and they discover it s too much money, I ll happily take a motor vehicle lane for cyclists.
@jrab:disqus: rental car promotion discount codes They serve different parts of Brooklyn, however and the focus is more on midtown even for many of those pairs. rental car promotion discount codes The A/C, F, B/D, and N/Q scarcely even serve the old business district. At best, only the Lex (4/5, not the 6), 7th Ave. lines (2/3, not the 1), and R focus on bringing people from Brooklyn to the old Financial District rental car promotion discount codes business center. The A/C tangentially serves the area around what is today the WTC.
Meanwhile, north Brooklyn has been cut off from downtown/South Brooklyn by everything except the G. The Lexington Avenue El, the Myrtle El, and the trolleys are all gone. Trolleys may not be the right solution today, of course, but the lack of surface rail puts a hole in the NYC transit environment that has never been filled.
As far as converting one of the vehicle lanes to cyclist use, my vote is for the outside inbound lane. Close BQE exit 28B, which leads onto the bridge, and let cyclists enter at Sands St, then leave the bridge in Manhattan via the now closed Park Row exit.
Of course this is even more politically impossible than taking an inner lane.  But it is even more valuable for a neglected component of transportation freight.  Eliminating that back-up would make the BQE much better for trucks and vans.
@dporpentine:disqus , thanks for the Cuozz link. Hilarious!  The Cuozz really ought to pack it in and get out of New York City while the getting is good.  Rude bikers, impenetrable wine lists, ingrates who don t appreciate Bruce Ratner s gift of a basketball arena, tourists jamming Times Square this place is going to hell.
I m less concerned about the costs of the proposed improvements on the span (section they seem to be showing).  That investment could be justified by improvements for safety, tourism, and mobility.  It should have muted opposition, since nobody else has to surrender an inch to provide the extra space.
The more challenging part might be fixing the approaches.  You can t use the typical section in the middle of the bridge if you can t get to it.  And you would be hard pressed to find an extra inch for bicycle approaches in Brooklyn without taking space away from cars.
@742ec67ca99409c49641a2a7b1a1d8f1:disqus  @e6c6b10fb9defc8425213d60a7fc2f3d:disqus Yeah I was being facetious. It just saddens me when people write off something difficult but potentially worthwhile as impossible without giving it the effort it deserves. Especially during rental car promotion discount codes Olympics season.
Bolwerk, if you ever visit, you will find that downtown New York City is a compact and walkable place where you are never more than a five-minute walk from any subway train you desire. It takes all of four minutes to walk from the Woolworth Building on Broadway to Church St, where you can catch the A train.
Also, if you should happen to visit Bed-Stuy and Bushwick anytime soon, you will notice that on many blocks, the multi-family dwellings that used to be there have been torn down and replaced with two-family houses. There aren t so many people living there now as there were before they tore down the els.
@jrab:disqus : Um, nice try. I used to live on Fulton Street (Manhattan) and live in the Williamsburg-Bushwick continuum now, so I have pretty first-hand knowledge of how full of it almost every sentence you wrote in response to me is. Don t try to spin a walk from Broadway to Church as the comparable as the types of distances you tried to spin when you said, since the halcyon year of 1907, a total of seven two-way pairs of
Manhattan. If you ever get a chance to visit Manhattan, you ll probably find your suburban lungs huffing after you walk the distance from, say, East Broadway rental car promotion discount codes and Rutgers where the F first stops in Manhattan to somewhere around, say, Trinity Place. That 1.5 miles may be walkable, but it hardly puts you within a five-minute walk from any subway train you desire.
As for population density: even if what you say is true, it s pretty poor case for less transit since less transit is precisely what probably would have caused such a phenomenon. Brooklyn is still one of the densest urban areas in the USA, downtown and north Brooklyn even moreso.
Let s also keep in mind that almost none of those routes are completely gone. If anything, we re just paying more for them now that we bustituted them. That s right: more expense to move fewer people.

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